if you ever start to take your life seriously just stand out and go outside and just look up at space and
just really wrap your head around it I mean, everybody looks up and goes “Oh, there’s the stars.. the stars are bright tonight.” but very few people actually look up and go “wow, that literally is infinity…”
we’re floating in infinity. and it’s the majority of what I see, all
around the top it’s easier to see infinity than it is to see the ground! i have more view of the infinity it’s amazing how rarely that comes
up because no one talks about it.
it’s too much so we just… sort of accept that we live in space, and just accept… it’s a silly hippie argument that “everyone needs psychedelics!” it’s not everyone, I’m not saying everyone needs them but goddamn a lot of people could use them if they would just study them, and distribute them through experts Imagine… what this world would be like if we had
centers where you could go as a young man to have a psychedelic experience and get a
broader view of the universe, someone takes you in, and does bloodwork on you, and makes
sure you’re healthy… and then they’d sit you down, and you’d watch
documentaries, and you take a class and when you graduate from the class in
class is all about pharmacology, and the way that different things interact with
your body, and when you’re done with the class you feel educated, and
you feel like you can make your own decision on whether or not you want to try this
and if you do want to try it, then they have a ceremony every kid goes in there, and you all with
proper meditation technique, and proper education of the history of what
the use of these substances is, and the history of the anecdotal evidence that
it may have been responsible for the actual birth of religion, everybody
goes crazy about the bible “blah, it’s in the bible man, the bible!
I live my life by the bible!” listen here’s the bottom line about the bible.
you’re not even reading the bible, stupid. what you’re reading is a version of the
bible that was translated first into latin and then into greek, the ancient hebrew
version of the bible… they don’t even know all the words!
they only know a certain percentage of the words in ancient hebrew, they
literally don’t know what the words mean. a part of it is because letters were also
in numbers and ancient hebrew, like… the letter A the is also the number one.
“you know hebrew is all math, it’s all numbers” the ancient jews used Hebrew as their numerical system each letter is a number Hebrew A – “Alef”=1 B “Beit”=2 you understand? but look at this… the numbers are interrelated.
take the hebrew word for father “Ab” (pronounced “Av”) aleph beit=3 all right? the hebrew word for mother “Am” one (aleph) and forty (mem)=forty one sum of three and forty one=44 right? now, the hebrew word for child “Yeled” mother + father=child
is 10 + 30 + 4=44 the Torah is just a long string of numbers some say it’s a code, sent to us from god so there is a certain numeric value
to words, that we don’t understand. What you’re getting is the worst interpretation
of the grapevine ever and on top of that the oldest version of the bible, which
is the dead sea scrolls, is so fucking crazy that they don’t even use it,
it’s filled with these vague stories of trips and UFO’s and visitations all sorts of nutty shit, and
according to John Marco Allegro the dead sea schools is all about they were hiding their history of
psychedelic mushroom use. they were trying to hide it from the Romans in stories and the older you go back in these
stories, and the more you get to the original version of the story… that’s what it was all about.
these guys were tripping their balls off and it totally makes sense. If you were a bunch of idiots who were living
seven thousand years ago or whatever the fuck they were, you’re
you’re living in your stupid leather shoes you’ve got sewn on you
some goofy-ass hemp clothing on, you know You’re a dope! you don’t know what’s going on…you look at the stars every night and you wonder when the gods are gonna rain fire from the
sky and then you stumble across some mushrooms… and you ate them, and ate
way too many, and had some insane Super-pschedelic, Wind-Tunnel Vortex Tornado Experience where the whole universe is like a giant ball of yarn
and each strand of the ball was like hyper-segmented with billions of
planets, and lives, and trees, and water. you can see that for five or six hours
and then come back… you’re not gonna want the Romans to know about that shit man… you’re gonna want to hide all that stuff.
that’s what the bible REALLY is, what the bible is, is a trip report! if we could have that…if we could have
communities where we did that, have a big giant football field filled with people doing mushrooms
that are putting out positive energy balanced, healthy people,
that want to unite together as that wanna embrace each other, and help each other
and no one ever get greedy, but let’s all work together
and do this together…you’d need a football field filled with people, a stadium filled with
people doing this that would fix the world…and it sounds ridiculous, it
sounds like you’re saying “mushrooms could change the world!” what would do it better?? There’s a lot of people that we’re talking to That are starting to look at this,
they’re starting to back up and look at the sky they’re looking to the left and to the right and going WHOA..what the fuck is this?? what is this thing we’re doing here?
what really means something is that we’re flying through the fucking universe.
we are in space. we are in a ship. it’s an organic ship.
we’re not on the ground we’re thinking on the ground
No, we’re flying! “i’m afraid to be in space in a spaceship!” you’re on spaceship right now! it just fucking huge it’s a twenty four thousand mile across
spaceship…okay? it’s a spaceship we’re not grounded, it’s not like the universe is a solid mass and we’re
sitting on it we’re flying! we are right now hurling and spinning a thousand
miles an hour, spinning around a massive nuclear explosion
(mockingly) – “I’m late for work!” “I’ve gotta get my blockbuster
video back!” “I’m Meg Whitman and I’m gonna clean up california… with conservative thinking and values!” people go “oh yeah man, space man… you wanna talk about space maaaan?” I’m like… should’nt we be thinking about it this?
what am i doing? I’m piloting this fuckin flesh vehicle, around some sort of a dimension filled with other flesh vehicles, if i didn’t
know what this was…if i came from no judgment whatsoever, just a
totally neutral point and i looked at human behavior
just moving around the planet I would be like…”this is the most psychedelic
shit ever! just us! we’re like the craziest characters in a movie.
when we landed into LA the other day, we flew in from Germany. We got in
a metal tube, we flew from one side of the fucking planet where it was ten hours ahead in time we flew all the way back, landed on
the same day to these lights and shit all these other metal tubes are flying
in from everywhere, and i said “We ARE in the future…” this IS some crazy
science fiction shit, and it’s going on right now We don’t even realize it this whole world is psychedelic! the psychedelic experience itself is important, you need to be humbled.
(enter Duncan) i mean, the thing there’s no rules the main rule is that – this is your incarnation and you get to do what you want with it. the idea is to do as much as you can expand your levels of happiness
and awareness, so you can feel connected, and good in this existence,
here are a lot of tools to do that, some of the tools take a long fucking time to do
I think when McKenna was talking about mushrooms being an obvious tool
to create a huge, wide-scale transformation on the planet he recognized there’s not a lot of time that’s what he was thinking. it’s not
like we’ve got a ton of fucking time to create like meditation temple, or to spread good
information, or to spread some new religion there’s no time for that shit if you really wanted to
transform these weird people who worship invisible homophobic child sacrificing gods, if you want to transform people
feel comfortable dropping bombs on other people the quickest way to do it will be give them a substance that allowed them to connect with each other, and with the earth, and to
development an instantaneous form empathy unlike anything else, and then when they
came back, it would be much more difficult to think about their weird, invisible god in the same
way one cool thing about the people who wrote the dead sea scrolls
whoever the fuck they were is that they were courageous enough to
try to express that experience as though it were reality and now…when people take a psychedelic they mark it off as some kind of dream or an imaginary thing that happened to them
that’s not real self they pretend this… alternate dimension
which seems to exist exactly on top of ours and is filled with hyper-dimensional super-intelligent beings that throughout time have been called aliens, or
angels, or elves, or dwarves or whatever the fact that it is, the fact
that these people tried to… articulate that, they tried to bring
something back from that place, here. and just the effect of bringing a close linguistic
description of that place onto this planet, look at the change it caused. the power that comes from being able to
swim out into the hypersonic waters of the psychedelic
experience, to keep your fucking head about you look at what you’re seeing, try to
understand it in a logical way, instead of being like “I’m partying!” try to
understand. what is this? is this a projection of what’s inside of you? or are you seeing something that’s
really there? and if you’re seeing something that’s really there… what are the symbols we’re
looking at? what are those…is that Mayan? is that Sanskrit? what is that? and the
more you try to understand that, and really get the message; there is a
message over there, we’ve all heard it. you’ve heard it, i’ve heard of the message is… the universe loves you, and you are fine
and everything’s gonna be fine, don’t be scared, try to spread love be positive embrace… the world, embrace your fucking neighbors and let go of the fear that’s ruining
your life. that’s the message, it gets interpreted in a bunch of different
ways, buddhism, christianity, whatever. but it’s not like people are supposed to
stop bringing that message back. that’s the thing. “I’m sorry… i don’t want to be an emperor that’s not my business I don’t want to rule, or conquer anyone I would like to help everyone if possible Jew, Gentile, black man, or white. we all want to help one another, human beings are like that we want to live by each other’s happiness,
not by each other’s misery we don’t want to hate, and despise one another this world has room for everyone,
and the good earth is rich it can provide for everyone. the way of life can be free, and beautiful. we have lost the way… greed has poisoned men’s souls it has barricaded the world with hate has goose-stepped us into misery, and bloodshed. we have developed speed yet we’ve shut ourselves in. machinery that creates abundance,
has left us in want. our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness-hard and unkind we think too much,
and feel too little. more than machinery… we need humanity more than cleverness we need kindness, and gentleness. without these qualities… life would be violent all would be lost the airplane and the radio have brought us
closer together the very nature of these inventions cries
out for the goodness in men cries out for universal brotherhood,
and the unity of us all. even now, my voice is reaching
millions throughout the world millions of despairing men, women, and
children victims of the system that makes men
torture and imprison innocent people for those who can hear me i say – Do not despair the misery that is now upon is but the passing of greed the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress the hate of men, it will pass. and dictators die, and the powered they took from the people
will return to the people. and so long as men die, liberty will never perish. soldiers! don’t give yourselves to brutes! men who despise you, enslave you who regiment your lives, who tell you what to do,
what to think, and what to feel. who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle,
use you as cannon fodder! don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men! machine men. with machine minds, and machine hearts. you are not machines! you are not cattle! You are men! you have the love of humanity in your hearts. you don’t hate, only the unloved hate.
the unloved and the unnatural. soldiers! don’t fight for slavery, fight for liberty! in the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke it is written, the
kingdom of god is within man. not one man, nor a group of men, but in all men.
in You! You, the people, have the power. the power to create machines,
the power to create happiness. you, the people have the power to make this life free, and beautiful.
to make this life a wonderful adventure! then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.
let us all unite! let us fight for a new world a decent world that will give men a chance to work, will give youth a future
and old age – its security. by the promise these things, brutes have risen to power
but they lie. they do no fulfill their promise, they never will.
dictators free themselves, but they enslave the people! now, let us fight to fulfill that promise! let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers,
to do away with greed to do away with hate and intolerance let us fight for a world of reason a world where science, and progress, will lead to all men’s happiness soldiers! in the name of democracy, let us all unite! (enter Rogan) it’s almost like we’re moving in a direction,
a terrible direction, because we don’t have the proper ingredients, so because we
don’t have the proper ingredients we can’t feel what we’re doing it’s almost like we have a numb arm probing into the darkness
and that numb arm is scratching the fuck out of
reality, we don’t know it because we just can’t feel it but if we could just feel it… if we could add this other ingredient
into the mixture that is life well then, all your pieces
are in order and now you can see and see, and FEEL what you’re doing (enter Duncan) the joy of a psychedelic is when you have the
balls to go into the darkness, and all of a sudden you realize that darkness was a complete illusion.
all the , and negativity, and spooky shit guilt, and fear, you thought was inside you…
and all the bad things you thought you’ve done and all the things you feel terrible
about secretly, you realize that is nothing. it’s an illusion, the universe loves you, you are completely embraced
by the entire universe. you are an incremental part of the
functioning of the cosmos and you’re an incredible, wonderful, perfect fucking thing. and when you get a
glimpse of that it’s the greatest feeling ever, because you’re healed. that’s what true healing is man. True healing is realizing you were never sick in the first place. people have lost the initial, or original connection with the spirit of the earth,
if you think about ayahuasca and the people drinking it in the jungle…
and communing with the mind of nature this substance, for these people has been a form of spiritual compass.
it points in the right direction, it sets you straight. it’s like…a tuning-fork for your soul
(rogan) but it’s amazing, talking about this… how did this happen? talking about this is ridiculous,
i feel nervous when we talk about “Mushrooms could change the world” ’cause I’m like “wtf? what is this idiot saying?
what is this nonsense?” but meanwhile, you’re compelled to say “listen, I know it sounds stupid,
I know I’m a goofy-looking fuck, I know I’m the Fear Factor guy.” but I’m saying that we might be overlooking one of the biggest tools,
that human beings have ever had for evolving, and developing. and that might be why the fucking train is off the tracks,
and into the woods. it might be that the animal isn’t balanced it might be that the animal has become conscious, and aware from being a savage, and eating this stuff. we might have a symbiotic
relationship on this earth with certain plants that we’ve made illegal we might need them. the big problem with human beings when it comes to pollution, and when it comes to destroying
the atmosphere, or nuclear disasters, we’re not feeling it. we don’t feel
the damage that we’re doing, we don’t feel the garbage patch in the ocean
when you take a water bottle, and you toss it in the garbage can, “you did your job! I’m done, I have no connection to this anymore.” and then we don’t feel when it goes into the ocean and
becomes a patch that’s floating and is as big as texas, we don’t feel that that is a lack of a connection, that’s a missing thing. that’s an animal that doesn’t have all of it’s ingredients.
(duncan) well it’s fucking blind! (rogan) i’ll tell you one of the weirdest things about the biggest DMT experience I ever had,
when i did it, when i first popped over to the other side I said “I’ve been here before…” so the idea is – maybe there’s like, a waiting room for the universe,
everything all connected. then, every now and then, you get stuck into some sort of
situation, some confined existence, where you’re working your way through this physical world
trying to make sense of it and then, you’ll end this one, pop out
into the main lobby area, into the waiting room, and we’ll see what happens next
time, BOOM! something completely alien, and different beyond your imagination. (duncan) there could be a million different
versions of how the energy that your consciousness is travels to the universe, you know? it
doesn’t have to be through reincarnation or through… through the normal sense. maybe you come
from an alternate dimension before this one some COMPLETELY different place where it’s like… octopuses floating around in some ether
that can communicate telepathically. why does it have to be from earth, this planet? this is what i was thinking – there is an idea coming,
when Tesla had his idea for alternating current, this idea came to him in a vision,
and that idea transformed society there have been so many ideas like that,
so there is an idea coming. I don’t know what it is…it could be a drug it could be a machine, it could be a movie, we don’t know what it is
but there is an idea coming… that might be the next
transformative idea, and the last transformative idea, that finally pushes us
outside of being stuck in the ego structure, and to becoming
part of everything else, i don’t know what the fuck it is… what you’re doing here, by putting
information like this out, at any time you have information that goes against the conditioning what you’re doing is sending out
little messages in bottles, and eventually one of those things might wash up on
some super-intelligent person’s shore, and they might open it up and go
“wait a minute… holy shit.. Wow! I just thought of whatever it is, ZERNON-49!!!
the device that opens up a portal into the future creates the machine McKenna talked about the idea of spreading this information is to lay the framework (rogan) the confines of our imaginations are
based on what we’ve experienced you know? our whole collective idea of what this world is,
is based on what we’ve experienced. even photographs, of things we haven’t experienced,
but we can see things that are in the galaxy we use these, and we have this
whole map of our universe, but that’s just what we see, right now. it’s only limited by our
ability to think outside what we’ve already seen. the universe could be
infinitely-fucking-bizarrely complicated to the point where every different
dimension has its own laws and rules and every different universe exists in the
center of every single black hole that might be all real shit! it might be so fucking infinite, and crazy… we maybe can’t see it. (duncan) well, we shouldn’t be able to see it,
there’s no way, we’re these little tiny little bits of neurology down here
on this ball, and we’re supposed to be able to? there’s no way we could reckon with infinity with our limited mind. (redban) the craziest things are when you
come across flowers, or nature and you think, “if i had this thing painted in my living room,
i would like… have a panic-attack and die.”
(rogan) it’s like, the most amazing thing you could see, ever! (duncan) it’s also funny many people on this planet think they’re living their own
individual lives, and are completely free but then you look at the interstate and you look at the way people move through the city, you see it’s just this
bloodstream of STOP-GO-RIGHT-LEFT STOP-GO-RIGHT-LEFT and they’re all every single person when you look at cars,
inside that car, they’re going to their girlfriend, or their mom just died,
they’re all having these amazingly complex experiences, and they all think
they’re the most important fucking thing. and yet, even in the midst of that,
they’re all operating according to this bizzare, technological pulsation. STOP-GO-LEFT-RIGHT
(redban) it’s like flying at night, it looks like a circuit board. like lights going through circuits. it’s like, beyond the mind’s eye too. (rogan) it really is, the world is fractal. whatever this fucking thing is that
we all know is in the works…it’s a lot more than a… sweet asian android you can fuck in the mouth! (rogan) it’s not gonna end, that’s what people have to realize…
it’s NOT gonna end. the real thing is… we’re living our lives, going through what we think is
predetermined patterns of behavior following the same roads to get to work everyday and we’re thinking it makes sense and all the while we’re doing this – we’re supporting technology. technology is developing at a far, far, faster rate than our biology can what I’ve always said about movies, and songs,
it kind of freaks me out how much they get to me. (duncan) you know what i’ve been listening to lately? you’ll make fun of me…
Shpongle, you ever listened to Shpongle? (rogan) somebody did a Shpongle thing, where they took their music,
and combined it with me talking about DMT. it’s pretty dope. (duncan) his songs are trippy man he’s fun to listen to and write, i like writing and listening to him. one of the songs i was hearing today…the lyrics are like
“LSD…DMT…” have you head that song? it’s really weird, i can’t even sing it because you
have to have like… seven synthesizers and a UFO
to make whatever fucking noises are coming out of Shpongle!